A/C Fill Freon Fill Amount (2024)

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  1. Apr 9, 2015#1

    sailboatjimLight Load Member

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    I've got one of these Bergstrom under seat A/C units I'm working on and it is in an International with sleeper.
    I'm guessing it's going to be 3 to 3 1/2 pounds or 36 and 44 oz but I don't know for sure. The only thing I could find on it said 134a.
    Sticker is gone completely.
    Got it vac down and ready to fill.
    Anyone?

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  3. Apr 9, 2015#2

    asavage1576Light Load Member

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    If you can't find the spec just fill it until pressures are correct

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  4. Apr 9, 2015#3

    sailboatjimLight Load Member

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    I put 36 oz. in it waiting for a reply and the low side pressure was 30 and the high side never gets above 250 and then the fan kicks on and it heads down to the 150 range or so. The fan kicks off when the low side pressure reaches 20 or so. It takes quite a while for it to reach 250 on the high side too. I'll bet I'm still just shy of the correct fill but the sight glass on the new dryer shows no signs of bubbles at all. I got in it and drove around and it's cool but not cold. I can see the expansion valve opening and closing on the pressure gauges. I evacuated it for about 45 minutes with a vac pump. I had to replace all the freon check taps and o rings. They were all leaking. Like I said the Bergstrom under seat a/c has no freon fill info on it at all and I have search the web high and low and haven't found it.

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  5. Apr 9, 2015#4

    asavage1576Light Load Member

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    Ya. I would add a little more. Our day cab Pete 365's take 44oz

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  6. Apr 9, 2015#5

    HeavydRoad Train Member

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    3lbs if you have a Sanden, 4lbs if you have a CCI compressor.

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  7. Apr 10, 2015#6

    Ezrider_48501Road Train Member

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    that sounds pretty close to correct pressure wise if charging on a relatively cool day. keep in mind that pressures will be higher on a hotter day than on a cool day.

    if it happened to be fairly hot out when you charged it i might add a touch more Freon. charging by pressure is not perfect but you can get the charge pretty close. i don't have a way to weight my Freon so i normally just charge by pressure so you should be fine just charging by pressure in absence of knowing the Freon amount the system holds. i really should get some kind of scale to put under my refrigerant bottle.

    overcharge can effect system performance as much as undercharge so sometimes you have to resist the urge to "add a little more"

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    sailboatjimLight Load Member

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    It's a CCI Piston type compressor.
    I've got 3lbs in it now.
    48 oz

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  9. Apr 10, 2015#8

    Longhood379Medium Load Member

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    check your pressure after the system has sat for 8 or so hours, the pressure should be very close to the ambient temp, 70 psi at 70 degrees F . if it will cycle the compressor and kick the fan in you are really close, overcharge creates extra load and lots of extra heat

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  10. Apr 10, 2015#9

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    When dealing with the unknown or the just does not do right units I charge by thermometer with in allowable pressure levels. Open all the doors and set unit to fresh air if applicable. Put therm. in outlet vent with a known low charge and add freon about 4 oz.at a time. Allow time for system to stabilize after each addition and check temp.( takes a few minutes 3-5 ?). Keep adding intell the temp. increases and back up.

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    A/C Fill Freon Fill Amount? ›

    If your unit is low on refrigerant, you will need 2-4 lbs. per ton of AC cooling to refill the refrigerant to optimum levels. Most houses have air conditioning units that range between a half-ton to 5 tons. This means a home with a 3-ton air conditioner will need 6-12 lbs.

    How much Freon should I put in my AC? ›

    According to PG&E, most central air conditioning systems use two to four pounds of refrigerant per ton of cooling capacity. A three-ton air conditioner would typically have six to 12 pounds of refrigerant for a proper charge.

    How much to add Freon to an AC unit? ›

    Expect to pay around $300 on average, or between $200 and $500* to add freon to your AC unit. Part of understanding air conditioning (AC) costs is understanding how refrigerant works. Freon is a refrigerant brand, but it's become a generic name for the important substance your AC uses to cool your home.

    How many ounces of R134a do I need? ›

    All Classic Auto Air “Smart Series” and “Daily Driver” A/C systems use exactly 24oz. of R134a. When can charging most common can sizes are 12oz. each, be certain to check the can sizes before charging.

    How much PAG oil to add when recharging AC? ›

    You must check the owner's manual before adding more oil. The AC system in most modern vehicles needs a total of 4 ounces (120 ml) of oil.

    What happens if you put too much Freon in your AC unit? ›

    Miscalculating the amount of refrigerant you need and supplying too much can cause the unit to experience increased pressure, blockages, and malfunctions. Having a professional calculate and fill your refrigerant as necessary provides the best way to prevent overfilling and overcharging.

    How many 12 oz cans of Freon do I need? ›

    Most cars hold between 28 and 32 ounces of refrigerant (or about 2—3 12oz cans), however larger vehicles and those with rear A/C will likely hold more. Check your vehicle manual for the system capacity for your specific vehicle.

    Can you overfill R-134a? ›

    Having too much refrigerant in your AC can damage the compressor. This can happen because the excess refrigerant will likely collect inside the compressor and cause subcooling, wherein temperatures are below normal. Furthermore, the extra refrigerant can flood the compressor and damage its mechanical parts.

    What is the safe fill ratio for R-134a? ›

    Option 1 0.8 x 14 kg = 11.2 kg Option 2 0.7 x 14.3 litres = 10.01 litres. The density of R134a at 30OC is 1.19 kg / litre, so the safe fill weight is: 10.01 x 1.19 = 11.9 kg. Option 1 gives the lowest value so this is the safe fill weight which should be used.

    How do I calculate how much refrigerant I need? ›

    There are three options to determine the capacity: Read the nameplate—It can be very hard but start here: • Remove all refrigerant and recharge into system. Estimate charge based on tonnage/size. Refrigerant charge as this chart shows vary by type these are examples of common refrigerants.

    What happens if you put too much oil in your air conditioner system? ›

    Excess oil may accumulate in the evaporator and then return to the compressor in a slug. This could overfill the crankcase and possibly damage the compressor. Excessive amounts of oil in an evaporator decrease the capacity of a system.

    How do I know if my AC compressor needs PAG oil? ›

    If your vehicle lacks compressor oil, there will be some telltale signs like humming sounds, refrigerant leaks, burning smells, and visible smoking.
    1. Humming Sounds. If you hear a strange humming noise when switching on your car's A/C system, you may lack compressor oil. ...
    2. Refrigerant Leaks. ...
    3. Burning Smell. ...
    4. Visible Smoke.

    Does evacuating the AC system remove all the oil? ›

    Vacuuming only removes gases, not liquids. Oil doesn't change state to gas, it stays liquid and therefore it will not get sucked out.

    Is it OK to run AC low on Freon? ›

    Leaving refrigerant levels low can also cause damage to the compressor which can be costly to replace. If you suspect your AC may be low on refrigerant, you should have it checked by a professional as soon as possible.

    How do I know if my AC has enough Freon? ›

    Steps to Check Refrigerant Levels
    1. Turn off the air conditioner and locate the service valves.
    2. Attach the manifold gauge set to the service valves.
    3. Turn on the air conditioner and observe the pressure readings, which should be between 30-40 PSI for most systems (though some may require higher or lower pressures).
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    Is 40 psi too much for AC? ›

    Forty PSI is fine.

    How many pounds of Freon does a 3 ton AC unit take? ›

    per ton of AC cooling to refill the refrigerant to optimum levels. Most houses have air conditioning units that range between a half-ton to 5 tons. This means a home with a 3-ton air conditioner will need 6-12 lbs. of Freon.

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